To attract highly competitive and qualified runners for the Waco
Symphony 6000, Susan Taylor, executive director of the Waco
Symphony Association, enlisted the services of Todd Copeland to
recruit elite runners for the prize money event. The following
is an interview with Mr. Copeland as he discusses what he looks
for in an elite runner, and what bringing in these runners do
for the event.ITR: Briefly, could you tell me your running history?
TC: I have lived in Waco most of my life and I ran at Midway
High School. We had a good cross country and track team and I
was all-state a couple of years. I went on to run at Baylor. I
was a walk on, but I made the varsity cross country team. About
halfway through the track season I came down with a knee injury
that stopped me from running for about four years. I graduated
from Baylor, but I didn't run anymore there.
ITR: How did you get back into running?
TC: After not running for about four years, I got to the point
where I missed it as part of my life, as a regular lifestyle. I
decided to slowly get back into running, doing a mile every
other day, doing a lot of leg exercises and stretching to try to
help prevent the injury from coming back. For the last two or
three years I have been more or less a pseudo competitive
runner. I run competitively now, but the main goal is just to
be running, and not worry about how competitive I am.
ITR: Define if you could, the elite runner recruiter - what
does that person do?
TC: Basically what I do, as a volunteer, is to help bring some
competitive runners down to the race.
ITR: Exactly what is it that you do then?
TC: What I do is I call people that I have either known either
through the race community in the state, or have seen results
from and found out their phone numbers. I call them and ask
them if they would be interested in coming to run, and tell them
that if they are, we would be willing to comp their entry fee.
Give them a complimentary entry. And then we get two or three
hotel rooms that we use, typically for people who have won it in
years past. We provide them with a hotel room the night
before. Really that is all. The race has prize money for the
top three, so for a lot of runners, for the more competitive
regional runners - the prize money is not enough to attract
those of a national caliber - the prize money is enough to get
them there.
ITR: How many runners do you actually recruit?
TC: Each year I call about 30 people all together - men and
women, and masters men and women.
ITR: So you recruit not only for the top finishers, but you
recruit for different age groups also?
TC: Right. We have the open division and the masters division.
There is prize money for the winners in those divisions. There
is a good level of masters running around the state, people who
are pretty competitive. I have gotten to know them too over the
course of the years. Runners are friendly people. What I do
basically is just provide the race with a network of
connections, and I can call people. The race provides me with
about 20 or 30 free entries that I can hand out to whoever I
think is a good person to have come.
ITR: Because of the top runners that are recruited, is that any
reason for the average runner to shy away from this race?
TC: No, I mean the race isn't geared to being just a
competitive runner only type of race. When you have a race with
full spectrum of people who are out there for fun and fitness,
and people who are out there to run competitively, it just gives
the race a better profile. Especially if a race wants publicity
in its local area, with the newspaper, if it is an actual true
competitive race, the chances of getting coverage by a newspaper
are exponentially greater than if it is a fun run.
ITR: Do you recruit from the collegiate level?
TC: No, not really. The college cross country season usually
starts that weekend, and they wouldn't be interested in it
anyway. Sometimes we get some of the Baylor runners that come.
That happens by chance, if it happens at all. College runners
are involved in their own college programs, and they don't do a
lot of road races.
ITR: What is the course record?
TC: The course record is from '99 - the first year of the
race. The time is 17:36, for the open male. This is a strange
race, because it is a 6000 meter race, which you don't see
anywhere. Normally you see a 5000. Essentially this course
goes up and down the Brazos River, it crosses one bridge, goes
down one side of the river, and crosses back on the next bridge,
and comes back. The shortest distance that this could possibly
be done, it just turned out to be 6000 meters. If nothing else,
I always tell the runners I try to recruit, you are going to get
a personal record for 6000 meters, since no one ever runs 6000
meters.
ITR: How many miles is 6000 meters?
TC: It is 3.7.